Monday, September 04, 2006

If America sneezes, the rest of the World catches a cold

From The Globe and Mail (Canada):

The housing collapse heard round the world

Real estate agent Andrea Gaus knew the market was out of whack when the price of a typical four-bedroom house near good schools in the leafy Maryland suburbs of Washington shot past the $1-million (U.S.) mark.

“It got to the point where appreciation was so high that it priced people out of the market,” Ms. Gaus said.

But the peak has passed, and the consequences of the deflating bubble are buffeting the housing market, in Washington and across the United States.
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“Look how fast prices were going up. The same thing is happening on the way down,” observed Ms. Gaus, who's been selling homes in Potomac for 16 years.

“It's a very tough market.”

The once red-hot housing market has fizzled. And the topic du jour among economists, investors and policy makers is whether the end of the housing boom signals the beginning of the end of a long run for the world's mightiest economy, and by association, the rest of the planet.

The U.S. housing crash may prove to be the economic equivalent of the canary in the coal mine — a warning of impending danger in an economy that has surged too far, too fast. Many experts are now openly speculating about a possible U.S. recession next year, brought on by consumers reacting to the shrinking value of their nest egg. If they're right, the fallout could prove to be far nastier than the collapse of the technology bubble at the start of the decade.
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Think it all doesn't matter to you? Think again. For nearly a decade now, the United States has been the economic driver for much of the world — Canada included. The United States has been sucking up excess savings and consuming everything in sight, from cars to homes and everything that goes in them.

“It's hard to imagine that a U.S.-centric global economy wouldn't be at risk in the aftermath of a bursting of the U.S. housing bubble,” warned Morgan Stanley chief economist Stephen Roach, one of Wall Street's most outspoken worrywarts.

“The non-U.S. world remains heavily reliant on selling exports to wealth-dependent American consumers. As the United States comes to grips with the aftershocks of another post-bubble shakeout, so too must the rest of the world.”

As he put it: “If the American consumer sneezes, countries in both the developed and the developing world could easily catch a cold.”

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The value of real estate and the unprecedented growth we have witnessed in prices is IMO exclusively attributable to leverage (historically low interest rates) and the ratio of supply to demand (greater credit availability leading to greater demand and reduced supply attributable to expectations of double digit appreciation and subsidized income thru home equity withdrawals). While we have certainly never seen such rapid appreciation attributable to interest rates a significant rise in prices may be reasonably justified and easily quantified. Given that the market now evaluates the risk of interest rates going lower rather than higher as essentially even, I believe any discussion of how prices may change, attributable to such fluctuations, is merely speculation. Which is why I have been lurking here at this website so as to better understand the demand and supply side of the equation. While I would agree that the same mob mentality that propelled this market beyond the fundamentals will likely play out in reverse, and in quick order (1-3 years) as consumers slow spending, this will allow the credit markets to reduce rates again to temper the effect of greater supply. So the outstanding influence as to the direction of home prices seems to me to lie almost exclusively with those homeowners who have overextended themselves and will be forced to sell, increasing the volume of homes in addition to the normal supply. Depending on the volume of such sales this may or may not have a significant effect on prices. The debate between a soft and hard landing is premised on how quickly such supply materializes and so I’m particularly interested in how much supply does this represent in absolute numbers. Yes we have seen dramatic percentage increases of IO loans cited here as well as large percentage of similar such aggressive financing for recent years but what percentage does this represent of the entire market. The numbers cited here do not seem to add up and as stated in the BW article are not regularly reported. Any credible statistics, by region and price category, members could provide would be appreciated so I may I arrive at an independent conclusion.

Keep up the good work Grim.

9/04/2006 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks emphaticus,
I forgot to mention demographics which I agree is a strong headwind but as the baby boomers only now are reaching retirement age and more and more are chosing to postpone due to poor planning this demand will play out over decades not years

9/04/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger chicagofinance said...

Anonymous said...
9/04/2006 09:22:32 AM

The perspective I offer is less applied and more theoretical. However, you may appreciate some of this information. It is generic, but it can help you wade through the details so that you can understand the underlying mechanisms that are driving the dynamics we are observing.

http://www.njrereport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116

http://www.njrereport.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=129

Register or provide a signature so that grim can help you more efficiently.

I love promising away grim's time.

9/04/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too many numbers...head spinning...must get to big chair with fake knobs...

9/04/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YoMe,

If you believe real estate will appreciate at all (let alone not significantly decline over the next few years) you're a bit out of touch with reality:

http://tinyurl.com/e4so5

Big housing bust currently in progress -- wait for prices to return to normal, or pay the price (in more ways than one).

9/04/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"10 years is not a few years. it's long term."


Using the last two prior boom/bust cycles as precedent, the down-trend matches the up-trend, in both # of years and magnitude:

http://tinyurl.com/e4so5

So, 10 years out puts you at 1996 prices. It's an odd "investment" that moves backwards.

It's your money.

9/04/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Chicago,

One man's sopressata is another's baloney

Common Cent$

9/04/2006 07:19:00 PM  

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