Tuesday, April 11, 2006

Seneca And Hughes Brief NJ Senate Budget Committee

From the AP courtesy of the Record/Herald:

Experts say state losing key jobs

New Jersey's economy has been expanding more slowly and weakly than the rest of the nation as the state loses key, high-paying jobs, two Rutgers University economists told state senators on Monday.

Rutgers professors Joseph Seneca and James Hughes told a Senate budget committee it must consider how its tax and spending decisions influence the economy as lawmakers mull Governor Corzine's nearly $31 billion budget proposal and its $1.9 billion in proposed tax increases.

"The new millennium has not been particularly kind to the New Jersey economy," Hughes said.

Seneca and Hughes told senators how the state, once a leader in telecommunications and pharmaceutical fields, is losing vital jobs. Increased taxes could cause businesses and high-wage earners to pack their bags, the men said.
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"The testimony this morning is nothing short of devastating," said Senate Minority Leader Leonard Lance, R-Hunterdon. "New Jersey is in a terrible economic situation."
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Seneca said statistics that show New Jerseyans are among the highest earners in the nation mask income gains in other states, expensive state housing and unappealing job trends. For instance, he said the state in recent years has lost 118,000 high-paying jobs and replaced them with 113,000 average-paying jobs in education, health care and food services.

"A very lopsided and undesirable trade-off," Seneca said.
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"We can no longer take our economic and technological well-being for granted," Hughes told senators.

14 Comments:

Blogger chicagofinance said...

We've been discussing this for weeks. Ask many people who worked in the affected fields, and they will confirm it for you. Even more importantly, ask educated young people where the opportunities are. NJ is still running, but on momentum only, soon to be fumes.

4/11/2006 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi paying jobs leaving.

Bad news for NJ housing prices.

Wait another 12 months and negative sentiment will be all over housing. Sellers will be wishing they sold earlier as the panic kills prices.

4/11/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Housing Bust!

Saw another house DOM 60 days lowered price again.

The trend is down.
BOOOOYAAAAAH!

Bob

4/11/2006 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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4/11/2006 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"For instance, he said the state in recent years has lost 118,000 high-paying jobs and replaced them with 113,000 average-paying jobs"


Duh. No surprise there, all those top jobs have been "outsourced" to India.

And wait another decade, as a billion people in China start getting into the act. Instead of Chinese workers making $30 a week sniffing glue all day while making sneakers and other widgets, they'll be making $40 a week while building the computer applications that run our banking and commerce industries.

We're selling out the long term future of our country for a short term boost in the corporate "bottom line."

Hopefully, people will wake up soon.

The top jobs aren't leaving NJ, they're leaving the country!

4/11/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's funny how the dumb young college students have decided immigration is such an important issue when they are to stupid to realize the IOU's piling up from their elders and say nothing about it.

4/11/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger chicagofinance said...

NNJ RE - let me use the Arthur's Steakhouse reference [Hoboken, Morris Plains, Emerson, North Brunswick].

The reputation of Arthur's is "$10 and you get a big steak". That was true in the 1990's.

Well, what happened?

Arthur's was mobbed ALL THE TIME.

So what did they do? THEY RAISED PRICES

To $12, $15, $17 now $19. Don't get me wrong, if you enjoy the atmosphere it is nice, but a lot of people go to Arhtur's now and say "I don't get it. What is the big deal?" - and they are right.

It used to be good, but not great, food for ridiculously low prices made for tremendous value. Now we have good, but not great, food for regular prices, and it completes with Outback Steakhouse. What is the big deal?

Well, 10 years ago, it used to be a good deal, but prices went up and ehh......

I think you can make the same argument about NNJ RE. Except make the steak $30.

4/11/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember getting a steak at Arthur's for $14 about 5 years ago. It is now $20. 40% inflation in 5 years? Sounds about right.

4/11/2006 02:46:00 PM  
Blogger grim said...

Well then it's a good thing that inflation in food, housing, and energy aren't included in the core numbers, otherwise we would really be in trouble..

grim

4/11/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work everyday with clients in the Pharma industry, mainly scientists and business developemnt folks. I can say from my experience is that most of these people (including myself) would hightail it out of NJ in a heartbeat given the opportunity. Big Pharma is "defragmenting" and much of the early stage and creative development work is moving to venture firms and small R&D shops located a long way from NJ for obvious reasons. It used ot be conventional wisdom that one needed an operation in NJ because that is where the talent pool for the industry resided. Well, I now find myself travleing to RTP NC, San Diego, Vancouver, Dallas, Maryland, Seattle, etc, whereas only a few years ago we spent most of our time in the NJ area. The scientists and engineers who do this type of work are obviously leaving (and new recruiting is tough), as they have certainly figured out that its much better to make 80K in RTP or Austin and own a 4br house than it is to make 90K in NJ while renting a dump in Rahway and sending your kids to shitty schools. I'm sure this is a similar situation for the telecom and other industries. I can't even remember the last time I heard that a new venture firm would be starting up in NJ. Of course, if I were going to start a business, it certainly wouldn't be here.

4/11/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger chicagofinance said...

Anon 4:49PM

yep.

4/11/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sizzler" used to have good steaks, and all-you-can-eat shrimp. Mmmm, we used to do some damage at that place.

4/11/2006 05:42:00 PM  
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Tell us more details, if you can.

4/11/2006 08:48:00 PM  
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