Saturday, September 16, 2006

Don't buy stuff you cannot afford

Came across this poster in the window of a Valley National Bank this morning. What ever happened to paying for things with... money? When did the line between buying and borrowing get so blurred?

A little primer for those who think borrowing against your home to take a vacation is a good idea.

Caveat Emptor,


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh My look Gluts of dream priced inventory piling up daily

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9/16/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of sellers but No buyers. Bad news realtors. Oh but the NAR says the market is back to normal. Righto!

“‘The brakes went on — boom! — it stopped,’ said local builder Bart DeRosso. ‘It’s definitely, definitely dried up.’”

9/16/2006 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


‘If you want to know where the market’s going, you look at inventory,’ said Denny Grimes, a Realtor

9/16/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger grim said...

This is absolute insanity. Shame on you Valley National.

9/16/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger Richie said...

Take a 2 week vacation and pay it off in 30 years!



9/16/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He already has dropped the price because potential buyers have been few and far between.”

10:1 sellers to buyers deck is stacked against the grubbers.

9/16/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No money No problema. $99 and a job you can buy a car!

Society has lost all sense of value.

Bleed'em dry!

9/16/2006 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatcha going to do when the IO ARM readjusts,Dummies?

9/16/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife and I had a closing yesterday. Unfortunately, only the twelfth this year, and we are running out of year. The story of this transaction tells much about what is happening in Atlanta real estate. We have known Paul and Denise for years. They called us in late April to come list their home. The market in April here had really just started to cool. We did our market analysis and recommended they list at $550,000, which they did. By June we had no offers and reduced to $$535,000. By now our market was cooling and everyone even here was starting to become aware of the very big price drops taking place in the hot markets elsewhere. We reduced once more to $525,000 in early August and took our first offer a week later for $490,000. We countered at $512,000, trying to meet them in the middle. They held firm at $490,000. We countered at $499,000 but still no deal. We went under contract at $490,000, the buyer's original offer price. If you have your calculator out, that's 11% below the original list price. Paul and Denise's home was in perfect condition in a sought after neighborhood. It's been that kind of year. Our best listings sell while the rest do not.

Anyway, so there we are at the closing table. The closing attorney hands out the HUD-1 closing statements. She starts at the top on the seller's side with the $490,000 contract price. Then the attorney starts down the page deducting the first mortgage, a small second, the real estate commission, pro-rated taxes and all the rest. There, at the bottom, the amount due the seller. Only this time, surprise, the seller owes $1,040. Paul laughs and says, “Is this a great country or what? You sell a house and owe money.” Everyone laughs. Paul and Denise have done well over the years. I doubt if this really hurt them, but I do think they sold for less than they would have thought just a few months ago. In a year like this, there are most likely many sellers bringing checks to the closing.

9/16/2006 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember that skit. People are so stupid. Instant gratification is not a necessity.

9/16/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger grim said...

Please cite sources and give credit where appropriate.

The text above is from Mish's blog:

Global Economic Analysis


9/16/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger Math, like gravity, is law. said...

Grim said;"What ever happened to paying for things with... money? When did the line between buying and borrowing get so blurred?"

Bankruptcy reform.
Banks will be very quick to foreclose etc. in order to keep the "non performing asset" # down, otherwise Wall St. will shut down their flow.

9/16/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

from cnn

Help! Home for sale - the Eatons

It's big, beautiful and a bargain but this Illinois home is sitting on the market.

9/16/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welcome to the Monthly Payment society. No savings, no equity, no net worth - only Monthly Payment.

Chaka Chong

9/16/2006 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger Math, like gravity, is law. said...

Anonymous said...
Welcome to the Monthly Payment society. No savings, no equity, no net worth - only Monthly Payment.

Chaka Chong

9/17/2006 12:24:14 AM

So true!
A true story of 2 generations:
6 years ago I did business with a guy in his 30's who "purchased" the new at the time 500CL Benz, he had just gotten liquid on $1m of stock from an internet co., assuming he paid cash, per his liquidity event, I asked "what did the car cost?" he replied "$2,700 a month", I asked again "what did you pay for the car?" he replied again, as if I didn't hear him the first time "$2,700 a month". I said I heard him give me a monthly payment #, "but what did the car cost?" He said "100 and something thousand" forward from this conversation 18 months...they repo'd the car and got a judgement against him for $55,000 the difference between what the car actually costs and what they could get for it. Those reading this may think what a dummy etc., I have to tell you this individual is bright, but is young and has been brainwashed on the monthly payment mentality. He has since been making a bit of a comeback.
The flip side to this story is my Father; drove for many years a Toyota Corolla with no a/c or radio, because "they charge more for that"...he paid cash. 18 months ago I went with him to a boat dealer in East Hampton, and he took a brand new 31 or 32 foot Grady White ($130,000 boat) for a test run, (wearing old jeans and a flannel shirt that's gotta be 10 years old) when we got back to the salesman's desk, My Father told him that he would "take it", the salesman then proceeded to hand him a bunch of papers, my father looked at them and said "What's this?" the salesman said "a credit application", my Father said "Why?", Salesman said "So you can get the boat" My Father very casually said "I don't do that, will you take a check?" I thought the salesman was gonna fall on the floor, I doubt my Father is the only person who wrote a check for a boat, he probably mis-judged the man by his clothes.
PS: I won't say what my nw is that would be tacky, however I will brag about my Father it is mid eight figures, he started from 0.
He grew up in the Queensbridge Housing projects.

9/17/2006 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love that Steve Martin skit!

The deeper issue is exactly that--instant gratification. And the creation of a false sense of security and wealth. Property, entitlement, "heritage," the American Family. And it's propped up with crippling debt.

Now, whose purposes would that serve?

Even though it's presented as a joke, I think the Steve Martin skit advocates true American values, unlike the patriotic debt slavery of the White Picket Fence.

We have mistaken style for substance, and been encouraged to persist in our mistake for the short-term profit of a few...financially and I daresay politically.

Will we learn?

Thriftily yours!

9/18/2006 07:29:00 AM  
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